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**apologies to those receiving this again. There seemed to have been a problem with one of the lists and many folks did not receive the email. Included in this thread are responses  received to date. Thank you!
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The IDRC has been updating the design of the Inclusive Learning and Design Handbook (ILDH) website (<a href="https://handbook.floeproject.org/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://handbook.floeproject.org/index.html</a>) and your input
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The ILDH is created with and for teachers, content creators, web developers and learners.<br>
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There are two possible visual designs for you to look at of a home page along with a secondary page design—Version 1 and Version 2.
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You can view the two versions through the following web links. You can leave comments directly on the files, send comments in an email or call the cell number in the signature below if you prefer voice to voice:<br>
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<a href="https://xd.adobe.com/view/5dd89e40-f0a7-478f-4877-e677f3f7ebd3-2be9/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://xd.adobe.com/view/5dd89e40-f0a7-478f-4877-e677f3f7ebd3-2be9/</a><br>
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<div>The following questions may help guide your feedback if you choose to participate:<br>
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<div>Which home page do you prefer and why?</div>
<div>Are there changes you think could improve either design?</div>
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<div>AND Please feel free to share comments beyond these guiding questions!</div>
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<div>Thanks so much.</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Moss, Gregor <gmoss@ocadu.ca><br>
<b>Sent:</b> September 13, 2019 1:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> pina.dintino@gmail.com <pina.dintino@gmail.com>; Liskovoi, Lisa <lliskovoi@ocadu.ca>; Watkins, Caren <cwatkins@ocadu.ca><br>
<b>Cc:</b> fluid-work@lists.idrc.ocad.ca <fluid-work@lists.idrc.ocad.ca>; 'everyone at the IDRC' <everyone@lists.idrc.ocad.ca><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Inclusive Learning Design Handbook (ILDH) visual design feedback</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="">We aren’t implementing the design at this point, so we won’t be able to test anything with screen readers yet, however there are steps we can take at this point to make that go more smoothly. I’m reminded of
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a Community Meeting talk</a> about a year ago hosted by Rob Carr who spoke about indicating accessibility features on wireframes, e.g. listing tab order, labels, skip links, etc. It would be great to include similar markup in the design and to consider interactions
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="">Cheers,</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> everyone <everyone-bounces@lists.inclusivedesign.ca>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>pina.dintino@gmail.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> September 12, 2019 21:03<br>
<b>To:</b> Liskovoi, Lisa <lliskovoi@ocadu.ca>; Watkins, Caren <cwatkins@ocadu.ca><br>
<b>Cc:</b> fluid-work@lists.idrc.ocad.ca; 'everyone at the IDRC' <everyone@lists.idrc.ocad.ca><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Inclusive Learning Design Handbook (ILDH) visual design feedback</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="">Are we making sure we are including accessibility requirements and testing at this phase of the design? Test with a screen reader to see how the flow actually works, use the shortcut keys to navigate through links and buttons,
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> everyone <<a href="mailto:everyone-bounces@lists.inclusivedesign.ca">everyone-bounces@lists.inclusivedesign.ca</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Liskovoi, Lisa<br>
<b>Sent:</b> September 12, 2019 11:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Watkins, Caren <<a href="mailto:cwatkins@ocadu.ca">cwatkins@ocadu.ca</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:fluid-work@lists.idrc.ocad.ca">fluid-work@lists.idrc.ocad.ca</a>; everyone at the IDRC <<a href="mailto:everyone@lists.idrc.ocad.ca">everyone@lists.idrc.ocad.ca</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Inclusive Learning Design Handbook (ILDH) visual design feedback</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Hi Caren,  </p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">The designs look great! I also prefer the header/main content in the 2nd design, I think the Explore section is more engaging/inviting, although some of that is because of the colour so I’m wondering if it would have the same effect if
 colour was added to the first version. I also really like the half circle Explore heading, and it ties nicely with the Download icon on the content page. </p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">I think the three tier footer a lot of content to repeat on every single page. Personally I prefer the footer of the first design. I would also consider making Accessibility and Get Involved their own content pages, include the two links
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 shortcomings, etc. I usually point people to <a href="https://zoom.us/accessibility">https://zoom.us/accessibility</a> as a good example. They’ve changed the page quite a bit, but I still like the general structure and content. </p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">I think we should avoid having “Learn More” links if possible, especially because we usually advise others not to do that. Can we make some part of the content itself more actionable? Or have the wording within those buttons be more descriptive
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Looking forward to seeing the site come together :) </p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">On Sep 12, 2019, at 10:59 AM, Justin Obara <<a href="mailto:obara.justin@gmail.com">obara.justin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">The designs are looking really good.</p>
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<li class="x_MsoNormal" style="">My opinion might change when there is a real image on Version 1, but at first glance Version 2 just looks cleaner and doesn’t feel like it cuts off at the fold the way Version 1 does. </li><li class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Comments on footer of Version 2</li></ul>
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<li class="x_MsoNormal" style="">It looks more like content, especially on the first page (maybe that’s a good thing?)</li><li class="x_MsoNormal" style="">I don’t know if I’d realized there was more below the first tier</li><li class="x_MsoNormal" style="">It takes up a lot of space.</li><li class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Not sure about the ordering</li></ul>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">AND Please feel free to share comments beyond these guiding questions!</span></p>
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<li class="x_MsoNormal" style="">I wonder about the accessibility (keyboard, screen reader, etc.) of having the navigation on the right hand side of the secondary pages. For example a user would have to tab through all of the content before reaching the navigation.</li><li class="x_MsoNormal" style="">I don’t understand the circle icon above “Related Resources” and “Further Readings” on the secondary page. It looks like a radio button.</li></ul>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">On Sep 12, 2019, at 10:34 AM, Watkins, Caren <<a href="mailto:cwatkins@ocadu.ca">cwatkins@ocadu.ca</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The IDRC has been updating the design of the Inclusive Learning and Design Handbook (ILDH) website (<a href="https://handbook.floeproject.org/index.html">https://handbook.floeproject.org/index.html</a>)
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">There are two possible visual designs for you to look at of a home page along with a secondary page design—Version 1 and Version 2.<span class="x_apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Are there changes you think could improve either design?</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Is there anything you feel is missing from either design?</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">AND Please feel free to share comments beyond these guiding questions!</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks so much.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Sincerely,</span></p>
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