FLOE Video Player testing results summary

Wed Jan 23 14:45:04 UTC 2013

Hi everyone,

Given that:
- the scrubber control is still keyboard focusable (albiet in not an
obvious way)
- there are other alternatives to navigating the timeline
- the fix for enabling standard tab-focusing  of the scrubber is
non-trivial

So I think for now, FLUID-4902 will not be a Blocker for the Video Player.
It will be marked as a critical and be considered for fixing at a later
time.

Please feel free to share any more thoughts / comments.

Thanks!

- Jon.

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Johnny Taylor <johnny at abledaccess.com>wrote:

> Justin,
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> I see. I get why it's that way, but I'm with you, I think the other way
> around would be more productive. Interesting. I didn't know that. Thank
> you.
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> Johnny
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> johnny at abledaccess.com
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> ... And the solution is inclusion
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> On 2013-01-21, at 12:19 PM, Justin Obara <obara.justin at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Thanks for weighing in Johnny.
>
> So the gist of this is that it's a bit of an annoying implementation
> detail by Apple. Basically "tab" by default is used for navigating
> everything but links; where as "option+tab" includes all keyboard focusable
> elements. You can swap these in the preferences. I think the idea with this
> is to make navigating faster. Although, personally, I would have preferred
> the opposite to be the default.
>
> This forum thread basically covers it.
> http://hintsforums.macworld.com/showthread.php?t=33603
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> All that being said, I don't really think there is anything we could do
> about it. At least not in this time frame. The solution I can think of
> would be to change the scubber to not be a link but just some element with
> a tabindex added. However, this appears to be a jQuery UI element so we
> don't have control over the markup. If I'm mistaken about this, please
> correct me.
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> Thanks
> Justin
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> On 2013-01-21, at 10:26 AM, Johnny Taylor <johnny at abledaccess.com> wrote:
>
> Jon and Justin,
>
> That Option > Tab trick isn't anything that would have remotely occurred
> to me. I'm surprised to hear it was even a thing. Huh.
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> Johnny
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> On 2013-01-21, at 9:33 AM, Jonathan Hung <jhung at ocadu.ca> wrote:
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> Hi Justin,
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> The concern I have is that unless the scrub bar is focusable in the
> standard way, a user may not even know it's focusable. Do most users even
> try "Option-Tab" in their daily usage?
>
> If the user doesn't think the scrub bar is focusable, it won't be clear to
> them how to fast-forward or rewind the video. The alternatives are
> navigating the Transcripts, or by focusing the outer video player container
> and pressing left / right arrow. Neither method I think is obvious.
>
> Do we consider this a blocker if:
> - the user doesn't think the scrubber bar is focusable?
> - the alternatives may not be obvious?
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> Thoughts?
>
> - Jon.
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> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Justin Obara <obara.justin at gmail.com>wrote:
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>> Hi Jon,
>>
>> Thanks for testing and filing these jiras.
>>
>> For FLUID-4902 you can reach the scub bar by using option-tab. I'm not
>> entirely sure why, but for some elements in safari you have to use this
>> combination to reach them. I left a comment on the jira. I think this
>> probably can just be closed now, but I'll let you decide.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Justin
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>> On 2013-01-18, at 11:12 AM, Jonathan Hung <jhung at ocadu.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone.
>>
>> I have been doing some rigorous manual testing of the Video Player and
>> have come across a few issues. Thankfully majority of the issues are not
>> major interaction concerns, but there are three in particular I would
>> consider Blockers:
>>
>> NEW BLOCKERS:
>>
>> FLUID-4889: Transcripts do not appear (Mac) or disappear (Windows) in
>> Fullscreen Firefox Video Player<http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4889>
>> FLUID-4901: In IE8 mute and unmute using keyboard pushes focus onto
>> Transcripts button. <http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4901>
>>  FLUID-4902: Can not tab focus scrub bar in Safari<http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4902>
>>
>> OTHER NEW ISSUES:
>>
>> FLUID-4900: In IE8, video player container not receiving focus<http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4900>
>> FLUID-4899: Volume tool tip moves when slider is in use IE8<http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4899>
>> FLUID-4897: Pressing pause causes scrubber to jump backward in time<http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4897>
>> FLUID-4896: Focus jumps to previously focused text if mouse click is on
>> white space in the transcript<http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4896>
>> FLUID-4895: In Firefox volume button has improper focus style when
>> mute/unmute is clicked <http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4895>
>> FLUID-4894: Transcript menu clipped at edge of screen using keyboard<http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4894>
>> FLUID-4892: Language drop-down selector does not open using keyboard<http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4892>
>> FLUID-4891: Transcript scrolls slowly when time is scrubbed<http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4891>
>> FLUID-4888: Native controls appear behind custom controls when enabling
>> Captions (Chrome, Safari)<http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4888>
>>
>> UNFILED ISSUE:
>> There is another issue where keyboard scrubbing in Firefox causes loss of
>> focus. However I have not been able to reproduce this consistently and
>> therefore has not been filed.
>>
>> I have added the 3 proposed blockers to the development planning wiki
>> page:
>>
>> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/FLOE+Video+Player+Development+Planning
>>
>> Testing is not exhaustive so it shouldn't be assumed that there are not
>> any other bugs to be found.
>>
>> Feel free to comment or give feedback.
>>
>> - Jon.
>>
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