Layout reorderer demo design update
James William Yoon
jyoon at ocad.ca
Tue Oct 5 17:50:10 UTC 2010
Hi Justin and Jon,
Justin Obara wrote:
>> This is a nice improvement on the existing demo. I'm not sure if in the
>> future we'll want to have actual content in the movable items, or if that
>> will just make things too confusing for the demo.
Jonathan Hung wrote:
> I don't think we should have actual content inside the content boxes because
> it may end up confusing the user. However, I think we should try to use
> different sized content boxes just to show how the code handles that.
Two things to consider here:
a) If it's confusing for users to have content inside content boxes, I
think we may have a bigger problem.
b) IIRC, part of the reason for refreshing the demos was to put the
components into a better context--something more than simply showing
the component and something less than having a full integration demo.
In this sense, I think "real" content might be something to consider.
Thoughts?
Cheers,
James
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Jonathan Hung <jhung at ocad.ca> wrote:
> I don't think we should have actual content inside the content boxes because
> it may end up confusing the user. However, I think we should try to use
> different sized content boxes just to show how the code handles that.
> Re: Small Drag Bar.
> The drag bar is cosmetic and the user can drag using the entire content box.
> There is a hover / focus style for the entire content box (not shown in this
> wireframe) and the mouse cursor changes to a grabber to indicate the content
> can be moved.
> Thanks for the comments!
> ---
> Jonathan Hung / jhung at ocad.ca
> IDRC - Interaction Designer / Researcher
> Fax: (416) 977-9844
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Justin Obara <obara.justin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jonathan,
>> This is a nice improvement on the existing demo. I'm not sure if in the
>> future we'll want to have actual content in the movable items, or if that
>> will just make things too confusing for the demo.
>> I've made some more comments below.
>> Thanks
>> Justin
>> On 2010-10-05, at 12:36 PM, Jonathan Hung wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone.
>> Attached is an illustration of a proposed update to the Layout Reorderer
>> demo.
>> The notable changes are:
>> - the use of a locked icon to indicate locked content.
>> - addition of instructions and description of usage.
>> - a top "drag bar" to movable content.
>>
>> Is this "drag bar" just to indicate that the element is draggable or will
>> this be used as the handle for performing the drag. If it is the latter, I
>> think it may be a bit small.
>>
>> - an asymmetrical layout bearing resemblance to a website with 2 sidebars
>> and a main content area.
>> Accessibility question:
>> - How is this demo accessible to screen readers? I feel that the feedback
>> will need to be descriptive in order to convey the proper ordering and
>> relationships of objects as they are moved between columns.
>>
>> We have jiras on bug parade for this. I don't think they'll be easy
>> though, but we are going to try to have it done for 1.3.
>>
>> Questions:
>> 1. Do you think locked content should have a more distinctive appearance?
>> 2. What is your opinion of using a lock icon versus having the words
>> "Locked"?
>>
>> Implementation question:
>> 3. The lock icons in the content area will be implemented as background
>> images as to not interfere with ATs (in effect be invisible to screen
>> readers). However, the lock icon in the instructions will be "seen" by ATs.
>> It is potentially confusing that the instructions reference a lock image,
>> but the rest of the demo does not as far as the AT is concerned. How should
>> this be handled?
>>
>> Not totally sure, but I think as long as the locked portlets are
>> identified as such, to AT users, then the locked icon is just styling. Your
>> instructions don't seem to necessarily refer to the lock icon, so I think it
>> is okay.
>>
>>
>> Thoughts on the overall design and comments to the above questions are
>> welcome!
>> - Jonathan.
>> ---
>> Jonathan Hung / jhung at ocad.ca
>> IDRC - Interaction Designer / Researcher
>> Fax: (416) 977-9844
>>
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