Fluid Engage: Issue with static text accessibility

tona monjo tonamonjo at gmail.com
Wed Mar 10 15:05:26 UTC 2010


Hi all,

I'm trying to connect to the IRC but I have some problems... I hope to be
there in a minute!!

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Svetoslav Nedkov <snedkov at asteasolutions.com
> wrote:

>  Hi all,
>
> Talk to you tomorrow at 10am in the channel.
>
> Regards,
>
> Svetoslav
>
>
> E.J. Zufelt wrote:
>
> Good evening,
>
>  I am free later today.  Tomorrow morning at 10am also works for me.  Just
> let me know what works best for you.
>
>  Thanks,
>   Everett Zufelt
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>  On 2010-03-09, at 11:08 AM, Svetoslav Nedkov wrote:
>
>  Hi Everett,
>
> I just saw that my email from yesterday didn't get through for some reason.
> I'm usually available from early in the morning to 11am EST and on Thursday
> and Friday until about noon.
> Is it ok for you to schedule a meeting for 10am EST tomorrow? Another
> option is to have it later today, I can join the channel from home.
>
> James, Tona, please feel welcome to join in.
>
> Regards,
>
> Svetoslav
>
>
> Colin Clark wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> This is the definitive list of ARIA roles, states, and properties supported by Safari:
> http://developer.apple.com/safari/library/documentation/AppleApplications/Reference/SafariHTMLRef/Articles/AccessibilityRoles.html
>
> It's a dismally meagre list. My guess is that we're going to have to come up with some clever design solutions to work around the limitations of Safari and VoiceOver for Engage. Maybe also invite James, Tona, or another designer to sit in on your conversation in the channel?
>
> Colin
>
> On 2010-03-08, at 10:25 AM, Yura Zenevich wrote:
>
>
>
>  Hi,
>
> I would certainly like to join the conversation. I spent quite some time last week looking into the problem of announcing or discovering the dynamic content in web applications on iphone safari with voice over. That problem seems to be a pretty big challenge since, as far as I'm aware, there's no way to force voice over cursor to focus on arbitrary elements on the page. I also looked over a number of web based application (including the ones from Google) and they all have similar issues with voice over visibility of dynamic content on the web page.
> IRC would be great too to chat about it (today afternoon or the whole day tomorrow work for me).
>
> Regards,
>
> Yura
>
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:18 AM, E.J. Zufelt <everett at zufelt.ca> <everett at zufelt.ca> wrote:
> Good morning,
>
> I would like to help out with this, but I don't think that e-mail will be the most effective medium.  Can we arrange a time to meet on IRC?  I have a pretty flexible schedule, so any time you pick should work for me.
>
> Thanks,
> Everett Zufelthttp://zufelt.ca
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> On 2010-03-08, at 9:55 AM, Svetoslav Nedkov wrote:
>
>
>
>  Hi all,
>
> Last week I took the oportunity to work on one of the accessibility issues with code entry screen:
> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/ENGAGE-392
>
> Here is what I found:
>
> Empty static text like <span></span> is not read by VoiceOver even given a tabindex and a aria-label attribute. The case is that this element needs a relevant ARIA role. However it seems that no suitable role is supported for static text. I found a table of supported ARIA roles in Safari that is somewhat outdated (from March last year):
> http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/aria-tests/ARIA-MACRoleTests.html
>
> I couldn't find a newer support table. Can someone help with this?
>
> Also when the static text is updated it retains its previous value (blank, not read by VoiceOver) as it is described here:
> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/ENGAGE-427
>
> This prevents the code from being read once it is entered.
>
> I hope that somebody has some insight on how to correct these issues.
>
>
> Regards,
> Svetoslav
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