Date widget

Thu Jan 3 18:59:15 UTC 2008

Along these same lines, Mac Mail uses "Today" and "Yesterday" and  
then uses the actual date for anything 2 days old.

-Daphne

On Jan 3, 2008, at 6:57 AM, Clay Fenlason wrote:

> Nice catch.
>
> Speaking of google, gmail does something rather nice - if the day in
> question is the current one, only the time is shown.  For other days,
> the date is shown.
>
> ~Clay
>
> On Jan 3, 2008 9:31 AM, John Norman <john at caret.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Google Calendar works well for this situation (once you work out how
>> it works :-) ). It displays brief date information - apparently as
>> normal html - but when you click on the date info it becomes fully
>> editable year, day and time. The usability challenge for me was that
>> at first I didn't realise the date was editable. After thinking "how
>> could Google write something so badly" for a while, I clicked on the
>> date out of frustration and behold, the editable interface was
>> revealed unto me. With the help of an edit icon (pencil) I would
>> probably have got there sooner, but now I know how it works I like  
>> it.
>>
>> This seems likely to be at variance with Yahoo patterns though...
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On 3 Jan 2008, at 15:15, Clay Fenlason wrote:
>>
>>> I'd add one further design consideration.  I know that there has
>>> already been some discussion about a Fluid component for editing  
>>> bits
>>> of the screen in place.  I think there are often locations where a
>>> time and date are simply displayed when they should also probably be
>>> editable (e.g. the assignments list as viewed by the instructor).
>>>
>>> At the same time, it's not always the case that you want the full
>>> timestamp to be displayed (again, the assignments listing provides a
>>> good example of where this becomes merely clutter, with its  
>>> "open" and
>>> "due" dates slotted next to one another, and someone might also feel
>>> that they want to add a third:  an "accept until" date).  You rarely
>>> need to see the year specified, for example, and in certain contexts
>>> even the time of day is secondary, although it should be easy to
>>> check.  I imagine solutions where only the date is displayed at the
>>> top level, and some sort of mouseover or popup reveals the full and
>>> gory details if you have a reason to refer to them.
>>>
>>> ~Clay
>>>
>>> On Jan 3, 2008 12:21 AM,  <antranig at caret.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi - really glad to see Fluid is preparing to devote some design
>>>> cycles
>>>> to this widget!
>>>> Directing all towards the original requirements page for the date
>>>> widget started by Kathy:
>>>>
>>>> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/RES/Date
>>>> +widget+improvements
>>>>
>>>> You can see all the discussion there, and also try out the  
>>>> templates
>>>> for my implementation which is still up at
>>>>
>>>> http://ponder.org.uk/RSFComponents-test/faces/test-components-index
>>>>
>>>> You can grab the markup for the templates at
>>>>
>>>> http://ponder.org.uk/RSFComponents-templates/content/templates/
>>>> yahoo-date.html
>>>>
>>>> to be used in any design work that you would like to do from here.
>>>>
>>>> Probably the biggest work that would need to be done to make this
>>>> widget usable in the other display technologies would be to rewrite
>>>> the logic used for handling user timezones onto the client side
>>>> rather than the server so that we can save on AJAX trips. Although
>>>> we could do without this by just deploying a single "standard  
>>>> widget"
>>>> webapp into Sakai this would be a bit awkward.
>>>>
>>>> Another issue seems to be that many locales (Denmark, South
>>>> Africa, etc.)
>>>> are complaining that the standard JDK locale information is not
>>>> correct
>>>> for them. We need to think about some architecture for overriding/
>>>> patching
>>>> this, hopefully in a scheme that is not too Sakai-specific.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Antranig.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Quoting Daphne Ogle <daphne at media.berkeley.edu>:
>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like a great idea Kristol!  I'd say go for it.  Should we
>>>>> create a new confluence space for this work or is there an  
>>>>> existing
>>>>> one (that I can't find) that we should use?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Daphne
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 2, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Hancock, Kristol J wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey guys!  I have a new hourly designer that has some time on her
>>>>>> hands right now and this may be a good project for her to get her
>>>>>> feet wet with Sakai.  Let me know what you think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kristol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Daphne Ogle [mailto:daphne at media.berkeley.edu]
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:57 PM
>>>>>> To: Harriet Truscott
>>>>>> Cc: 'Sakai UI UI'; fluid-work at fluidproject.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Date widget
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds like a wild and crazy New Year Harriet! :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A date widget component is not currently on the radar for
>>>>>> Fluid.  It
>>>>>> would sure be great to decide on an accessible and usable widget
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> we consistently use in Sakai.  I've lost track of where and which
>>>>>> ones are used at this point.  Would it help if we put together a
>>>>>> little project to identify how and where we use various date
>>>>>> pickers
>>>>>> now?  Then we could do UX Walkthroughs and technical  
>>>>>> feasibility to
>>>>>> assess the various ones in use?  I don't have a ton of time
>>>>>> right now
>>>>>> but am willing to work with others on this a bit if there are  
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> takers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Daphne
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2008, at 3:36 AM, Harriet Truscott wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm celebrating the new year by going through my JIRA items, and
>>>>>>> I've come
>>>>>>> across
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HYPERLINK http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-11688
>>>>>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-11688 , i.e.  
>>>>>>> "Replace
>>>>>>> date
>>>>>>> widget in Resources"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where are we up to on the whole date widget business? Is Fluid
>>>>>>> working on
>>>>>>> developing a lovely new date widget? Has a lovely new date  
>>>>>>> widget
>>>>>>> (i.e. the
>>>>>>> one used in Polls) been developed? If so, is this only for  
>>>>>>> use in
>>>>>>> RSF tools?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HYPERLINK http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-7000
>>>>>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-7000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Happy New Year, everyone!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Harriet
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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