Date widget

Thu Jan 3 14:57:20 UTC 2008

Nice catch.

Speaking of google, gmail does something rather nice - if the day in
question is the current one, only the time is shown.  For other days,
the date is shown.

~Clay

On Jan 3, 2008 9:31 AM, John Norman <john at caret.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> Google Calendar works well for this situation (once you work out how
> it works :-) ). It displays brief date information - apparently as
> normal html - but when you click on the date info it becomes fully
> editable year, day and time. The usability challenge for me was that
> at first I didn't realise the date was editable. After thinking "how
> could Google write something so badly" for a while, I clicked on the
> date out of frustration and behold, the editable interface was
> revealed unto me. With the help of an edit icon (pencil) I would
> probably have got there sooner, but now I know how it works I like it.
>
> This seems likely to be at variance with Yahoo patterns though...
>
> John
>
>
> On 3 Jan 2008, at 15:15, Clay Fenlason wrote:
>
> > I'd add one further design consideration.  I know that there has
> > already been some discussion about a Fluid component for editing bits
> > of the screen in place.  I think there are often locations where a
> > time and date are simply displayed when they should also probably be
> > editable (e.g. the assignments list as viewed by the instructor).
> >
> > At the same time, it's not always the case that you want the full
> > timestamp to be displayed (again, the assignments listing provides a
> > good example of where this becomes merely clutter, with its "open" and
> > "due" dates slotted next to one another, and someone might also feel
> > that they want to add a third:  an "accept until" date).  You rarely
> > need to see the year specified, for example, and in certain contexts
> > even the time of day is secondary, although it should be easy to
> > check.  I imagine solutions where only the date is displayed at the
> > top level, and some sort of mouseover or popup reveals the full and
> > gory details if you have a reason to refer to them.
> >
> > ~Clay
> >
> > On Jan 3, 2008 12:21 AM,  <antranig at caret.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi - really glad to see Fluid is preparing to devote some design
> >> cycles
> >> to this widget!
> >> Directing all towards the original requirements page for the date
> >> widget started by Kathy:
> >>
> >> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/RES/Date
> >> +widget+improvements
> >>
> >> You can see all the discussion there, and also try out the templates
> >> for my implementation which is still up at
> >>
> >> http://ponder.org.uk/RSFComponents-test/faces/test-components-index
> >>
> >> You can grab the markup for the templates at
> >>
> >> http://ponder.org.uk/RSFComponents-templates/content/templates/
> >> yahoo-date.html
> >>
> >> to be used in any design work that you would like to do from here.
> >>
> >> Probably the biggest work that would need to be done to make this
> >> widget usable in the other display technologies would be to rewrite
> >> the logic used for handling user timezones onto the client side
> >> rather than the server so that we can save on AJAX trips. Although
> >> we could do without this by just deploying a single "standard widget"
> >> webapp into Sakai this would be a bit awkward.
> >>
> >> Another issue seems to be that many locales (Denmark, South
> >> Africa, etc.)
> >> are complaining that the standard JDK locale information is not
> >> correct
> >> for them. We need to think about some architecture for overriding/
> >> patching
> >> this, hopefully in a scheme that is not too Sakai-specific.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Antranig.
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting Daphne Ogle <daphne at media.berkeley.edu>:
> >>
> >>> Sounds like a great idea Kristol!  I'd say go for it.  Should we
> >>> create a new confluence space for this work or is there an existing
> >>> one (that I can't find) that we should use?
> >>>
> >>> -Daphne
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 2, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Hancock, Kristol J wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hey guys!  I have a new hourly designer that has some time on her
> >>>> hands right now and this may be a good project for her to get her
> >>>> feet wet with Sakai.  Let me know what you think.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>> Kristol
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Daphne Ogle [mailto:daphne at media.berkeley.edu]
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:57 PM
> >>>> To: Harriet Truscott
> >>>> Cc: 'Sakai UI UI'; fluid-work at fluidproject.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: Date widget
> >>>>
> >>>> Sounds like a wild and crazy New Year Harriet! :)
> >>>>
> >>>> A date widget component is not currently on the radar for
> >>>> Fluid.  It
> >>>> would sure be great to decide on an accessible and usable widget
> >>>> that
> >>>> we consistently use in Sakai.  I've lost track of where and which
> >>>> ones are used at this point.  Would it help if we put together a
> >>>> little project to identify how and where we use various date
> >>>> pickers
> >>>> now?  Then we could do UX Walkthroughs and technical feasibility to
> >>>> assess the various ones in use?  I don't have a ton of time
> >>>> right now
> >>>> but am willing to work with others on this a bit if there are other
> >>>> takers.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Daphne
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 2, 2008, at 3:36 AM, Harriet Truscott wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello all
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm celebrating the new year by going through my JIRA items, and
> >>>>> I've come
> >>>>> across
> >>>>>
> >>>>> HYPERLINK http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-11688
> >>>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-11688 , i.e. "Replace
> >>>>> date
> >>>>> widget in Resources"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Where are we up to on the whole date widget business? Is Fluid
> >>>>> working on
> >>>>> developing a lovely new date widget? Has a lovely new date widget
> >>>>> (i.e. the
> >>>>> one used in Polls) been developed? If so, is this only for use in
> >>>>> RSF tools?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> HYPERLINK http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-7000
> >>>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-7000
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Happy New Year, everyone!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Harriet
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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