Date widget

Thu Jan 3 14:31:21 UTC 2008

Google Calendar works well for this situation (once you work out how  
it works :-) ). It displays brief date information - apparently as  
normal html - but when you click on the date info it becomes fully  
editable year, day and time. The usability challenge for me was that  
at first I didn't realise the date was editable. After thinking "how  
could Google write something so badly" for a while, I clicked on the  
date out of frustration and behold, the editable interface was  
revealed unto me. With the help of an edit icon (pencil) I would  
probably have got there sooner, but now I know how it works I like it.

This seems likely to be at variance with Yahoo patterns though...

John

On 3 Jan 2008, at 15:15, Clay Fenlason wrote:

> I'd add one further design consideration.  I know that there has
> already been some discussion about a Fluid component for editing bits
> of the screen in place.  I think there are often locations where a
> time and date are simply displayed when they should also probably be
> editable (e.g. the assignments list as viewed by the instructor).
>
> At the same time, it's not always the case that you want the full
> timestamp to be displayed (again, the assignments listing provides a
> good example of where this becomes merely clutter, with its "open" and
> "due" dates slotted next to one another, and someone might also feel
> that they want to add a third:  an "accept until" date).  You rarely
> need to see the year specified, for example, and in certain contexts
> even the time of day is secondary, although it should be easy to
> check.  I imagine solutions where only the date is displayed at the
> top level, and some sort of mouseover or popup reveals the full and
> gory details if you have a reason to refer to them.
>
> ~Clay
>
> On Jan 3, 2008 12:21 AM,  <antranig at caret.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Hi - really glad to see Fluid is preparing to devote some design  
>> cycles
>> to this widget!
>> Directing all towards the original requirements page for the date
>> widget started by Kathy:
>>
>> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/RES/Date 
>> +widget+improvements
>>
>> You can see all the discussion there, and also try out the templates
>> for my implementation which is still up at
>>
>> http://ponder.org.uk/RSFComponents-test/faces/test-components-index
>>
>> You can grab the markup for the templates at
>>
>> http://ponder.org.uk/RSFComponents-templates/content/templates/ 
>> yahoo-date.html
>>
>> to be used in any design work that you would like to do from here.
>>
>> Probably the biggest work that would need to be done to make this
>> widget usable in the other display technologies would be to rewrite
>> the logic used for handling user timezones onto the client side
>> rather than the server so that we can save on AJAX trips. Although
>> we could do without this by just deploying a single "standard widget"
>> webapp into Sakai this would be a bit awkward.
>>
>> Another issue seems to be that many locales (Denmark, South  
>> Africa, etc.)
>> are complaining that the standard JDK locale information is not  
>> correct
>> for them. We need to think about some architecture for overriding/ 
>> patching
>> this, hopefully in a scheme that is not too Sakai-specific.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Antranig.
>>
>>
>> Quoting Daphne Ogle <daphne at media.berkeley.edu>:
>>
>>> Sounds like a great idea Kristol!  I'd say go for it.  Should we
>>> create a new confluence space for this work or is there an existing
>>> one (that I can't find) that we should use?
>>>
>>> -Daphne
>>>
>>> On Jan 2, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Hancock, Kristol J wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey guys!  I have a new hourly designer that has some time on her
>>>> hands right now and this may be a good project for her to get her
>>>> feet wet with Sakai.  Let me know what you think.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Kristol
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Daphne Ogle [mailto:daphne at media.berkeley.edu]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:57 PM
>>>> To: Harriet Truscott
>>>> Cc: 'Sakai UI UI'; fluid-work at fluidproject.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Date widget
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like a wild and crazy New Year Harriet! :)
>>>>
>>>> A date widget component is not currently on the radar for  
>>>> Fluid.  It
>>>> would sure be great to decide on an accessible and usable widget  
>>>> that
>>>> we consistently use in Sakai.  I've lost track of where and which
>>>> ones are used at this point.  Would it help if we put together a
>>>> little project to identify how and where we use various date  
>>>> pickers
>>>> now?  Then we could do UX Walkthroughs and technical feasibility to
>>>> assess the various ones in use?  I don't have a ton of time  
>>>> right now
>>>> but am willing to work with others on this a bit if there are other
>>>> takers.
>>>>
>>>> -Daphne
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 2, 2008, at 3:36 AM, Harriet Truscott wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello all
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm celebrating the new year by going through my JIRA items, and
>>>>> I've come
>>>>> across
>>>>>
>>>>> HYPERLINK http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-11688
>>>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-11688 , i.e. "Replace
>>>>> date
>>>>> widget in Resources"
>>>>>
>>>>> Where are we up to on the whole date widget business? Is Fluid
>>>>> working on
>>>>> developing a lovely new date widget? Has a lovely new date widget
>>>>> (i.e. the
>>>>> one used in Polls) been developed? If so, is this only for use in
>>>>> RSF tools?
>>>>>
>>>>> HYPERLINK http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-7000
>>>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-7000
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy New Year, everyone!
>>>>>
>>>>> Harriet
>>>>>
>>>>>
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