Date widget

Thu Jan 3 14:15:51 UTC 2008

I'd add one further design consideration.  I know that there has
already been some discussion about a Fluid component for editing bits
of the screen in place.  I think there are often locations where a
time and date are simply displayed when they should also probably be
editable (e.g. the assignments list as viewed by the instructor).

At the same time, it's not always the case that you want the full
timestamp to be displayed (again, the assignments listing provides a
good example of where this becomes merely clutter, with its "open" and
"due" dates slotted next to one another, and someone might also feel
that they want to add a third:  an "accept until" date).  You rarely
need to see the year specified, for example, and in certain contexts
even the time of day is secondary, although it should be easy to
check.  I imagine solutions where only the date is displayed at the
top level, and some sort of mouseover or popup reveals the full and
gory details if you have a reason to refer to them.

~Clay

On Jan 3, 2008 12:21 AM,  <antranig at caret.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi - really glad to see Fluid is preparing to devote some design cycles
> to this widget!
> Directing all towards the original requirements page for the date
> widget started by Kathy:
>
> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/RES/Date+widget+improvements
>
> You can see all the discussion there, and also try out the templates
> for my implementation which is still up at
>
> http://ponder.org.uk/RSFComponents-test/faces/test-components-index
>
> You can grab the markup for the templates at
>
> http://ponder.org.uk/RSFComponents-templates/content/templates/yahoo-date.html
>
> to be used in any design work that you would like to do from here.
>
> Probably the biggest work that would need to be done to make this
> widget usable in the other display technologies would be to rewrite
> the logic used for handling user timezones onto the client side
> rather than the server so that we can save on AJAX trips. Although
> we could do without this by just deploying a single "standard widget"
> webapp into Sakai this would be a bit awkward.
>
> Another issue seems to be that many locales (Denmark, South Africa, etc.)
> are complaining that the standard JDK locale information is not correct
> for them. We need to think about some architecture for overriding/patching
> this, hopefully in a scheme that is not too Sakai-specific.
>
> Cheers,
> Antranig.
>
>
> Quoting Daphne Ogle <daphne at media.berkeley.edu>:
>
> > Sounds like a great idea Kristol!  I'd say go for it.  Should we
> > create a new confluence space for this work or is there an existing
> > one (that I can't find) that we should use?
> >
> > -Daphne
> >
> > On Jan 2, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Hancock, Kristol J wrote:
> >
> > > Hey guys!  I have a new hourly designer that has some time on her
> > > hands right now and this may be a good project for her to get her
> > > feet wet with Sakai.  Let me know what you think.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Kristol
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Daphne Ogle [mailto:daphne at media.berkeley.edu]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:57 PM
> > > To: Harriet Truscott
> > > Cc: 'Sakai UI UI'; fluid-work at fluidproject.org
> > > Subject: Re: Date widget
> > >
> > > Sounds like a wild and crazy New Year Harriet! :)
> > >
> > > A date widget component is not currently on the radar for Fluid.  It
> > > would sure be great to decide on an accessible and usable widget that
> > > we consistently use in Sakai.  I've lost track of where and which
> > > ones are used at this point.  Would it help if we put together a
> > > little project to identify how and where we use various date pickers
> > > now?  Then we could do UX Walkthroughs and technical feasibility to
> > > assess the various ones in use?  I don't have a ton of time right now
> > > but am willing to work with others on this a bit if there are other
> > > takers.
> > >
> > > -Daphne
> > >
> > > On Jan 2, 2008, at 3:36 AM, Harriet Truscott wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hello all
> > >>
> > >> I'm celebrating the new year by going through my JIRA items, and
> > >> I've come
> > >> across
> > >>
> > >> HYPERLINK http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-11688
> > >> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-11688 , i.e. "Replace
> > >> date
> > >> widget in Resources"
> > >>
> > >> Where are we up to on the whole date widget business? Is Fluid
> > >> working on
> > >> developing a lovely new date widget? Has a lovely new date widget
> > >> (i.e. the
> > >> one used in Polls) been developed? If so, is this only for use in
> > >> RSF tools?
> > >>
> > >> HYPERLINK http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-7000
> > >> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-7000
> > >>
> > >> Happy New Year, everyone!
> > >>
> > >> Harriet
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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