accessibility

Mon Dec 1 22:35:28 UTC 2008

Hi Chris,

I'm forwarding your message on to the fluid-work mailing list in case  
others would like to weigh in on your or Nate's questions.

In his email below I believe Clayton was thinking about how a new  
component we were working on, User Interface Options (http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/User+Interface+Options 
), might be able to work with a framework like OpenID to carry an  
individual's preferences about their user interface from one system/ 
application/website to another.  The most recent information on UI  
Options was generated at the Fluid All-Hands meeting in Berkeley last  
week, where the team did some brainstorming on potential features (http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/All+Hands+Draft+User+Interface+Options+Structure 
). These features have also been entered into JIRA (http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-1842 
), some of which are currently being worked on and others as future  
features.

Additionally, as Clatyon said, one of the big things the Fluid Project  
provides is a library usable & accessible user interface components,  
which are available here: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Components 
. You may also find our User Experience Toolkit (http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/UX+Toolkit 
), which is a sort of "how-to guide" on several user-centered design  
practices, and the Fluid-sponsored Open Source Design Pattern Library (http://osdpl.fluidproject.org 
) where anyone can contribute patterns helpful as you are designing  
and evaluating your user interface. If you have questions about any of  
these resources, I or the other appropriate folks on the fluid-work  
mailing list would be more than happy to help you with them.

Cheers,
Allison

On Nov 26, 2008, at 4:58 PM, Chris Messina wrote:

> I'm certainly open to that. Looking forward to hearing from the  
> Fluid folks!
>
> Chris
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Nate Angell <ixmati at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'll let Clayton speak up too, but given my tangential relationship  
> with Fluid, I would think it would be ideal if the OpenID folks  
> could sit down with a few of the Fluid folks to discuss both how  
> OpenID might best address accessibility issues AND how OpenID might  
> be able to support user-centric accessibility preferences (for lack  
> of a better phrase).
>
> As luck would have it, a few of the Fluid folk are near at least  
> some of the OpenID folk as they are at Berkeley. I'm copying them on  
> this message to see what they say.
>
>
> On Nov 26, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Chris Messina wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the context Nate.
>>
>> On the one hand, we need usability help and best practices for  
>> OpenID generally (hence this list). We have a lot of existing  
>> behavior in the wild to look at, and we have a small group of  
>> people after a UX Summit that we held in charge of coming up with  
>> some recommendations for OPs and RPs.
>>
>> If the Fluid Project could suggest how we might engage with them on  
>> evaluating the existing approaches, and then move into making  
>> subsequent recommendations on the signin process that would be  
>> excellent.
>>
>> If we could then extend that work to cover SREG and the exchange of  
>> profile data from an OP to an RP, and what that experience should  
>> ideally look like, then that would be a great secondary task for  
>> the Fluid group to assist with.
>>
>> Where do we begin?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Nate Angell <ixmati at gmail.com>  
>> wrote:
>> Clayton, glad you posted to the list...I'm a member of the Sakai  
>> community and had put it to the fluid folks that they might find  
>> value in joining the OpenID community.
>>
>> For the OpenID folks, please take Clayton's offer of accessibility  
>> help seriously...the Fluid folks are some of the best experts  
>> you'll find.
>>
>> --
>> Nate Angell
>> Director of Special Projects
>> rSmart
>> http://twitter.com/xolotl
>> http://xolotl.org/
>>
>> On Nov 25, 2008, at 6:48 PM, Clayton H Lewis wrote:
>>
>>> new to this list...  a colleague pointed out to me a couple of  
>>> earlier posts on this
>>>
>>> I'm a participant in the Fluid project (www.fluidproject.org),  
>>> aimed at providing pluggable UI components with good usability and  
>>> accessibility baked in
>>> as part of this we have a big interest in making it possible for  
>>> people to associate information presentation preferences with  
>>> their id so that they don't have to keep respecifying this info,  
>>> specifying it in different ways for different sites, etc... this  
>>> is a pretty big deal for a good many users; browsers can do some  
>>> of it, but not all, plus one isn't always using one's "own" browser
>>>
>>> this is a long term strategic interest, with a good deal of  
>>> history, eg an ISO standard for specifying the preferences, but we  
>>> haven't yet found a good way to tie the info into a widely used id  
>>> framework
>>>
>>> any suggestions about approaches to this via openID would be very  
>>> welcome
>>>
>>> there are a number of accessibility folks working on Fluid, so if  
>>> there are particular accessibility questions coming from openID we  
>>> may be able to help, for example by saying something about screen  
>>> reader views of things
>>>
>>>
>>> Clayton Lewis
>>> Professor of Computer Science
>>> Scientist in Residence, Coleman Institute for Cognitive Disabilities
>>> University of Colorado
>>> http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~clayton
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> user-experience mailing list
>>> user-experience at openid.net
>>> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/user-experience
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/user-experience
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Chris Messina
>> Citizen-Participant &
>>  Open Technology Advocate-at-Large
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>> citizenagency.com # vidoop.com
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>
>
> -- 
> Chris Messina
> Citizen-Participant &
>  Open Technology Advocate-at-Large
> factoryjoe.com # diso-project.org
> citizenagency.com # vidoop.com
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Allison Bloodworth
Senior User Interaction Designer
Educational Technology Services
University of California, Berkeley
(415) 377-8243
abloodworth at berkeley.edu

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