David Bolter david.bolter at utoronto.ca
Fri Apr 18 16:28:09 UTC 2008

We should probably drop the pf from the Ux discussion.

Mara Hancock wrote:
> I am not a UX person, but in thinking about it from a user perspective 
> I would say that it seems that context and user goals would determine 
> usability. For example, if I were going to use this as a date range 
> picker for my assignment, I would like it less than the use of a small 
> calendar, because the calendar is the primary context for thinking 
> about the semester and due dates. However, if I were in a project 
> management tool and creating a project plan which will be visualized 
> via a gantt chart, a horizontal slider would make good sense.
> On Apr 18, 2008, at 8:37 AM, Joseph Scheuhammer wrote:
>> Sorry for sending this twice, but I forgot to include the fluid-work
>> mailing list last time.
>> All,
>>> The form I've seen is a slider with two thumbs, allowing the user to
>>> select two endpoints of a range, thereby selecting a range.
>> Here are some examples:
>> http://www.ajaxorized.com/dateslider/slider.html
>> http://tobias.klpstn.com/dojo/dojox/widget/tests/test_RangeSlider.html
>> http://dev.jquery.com/view/trunk/ui/demos/ui.slider.html, examples 3 
>> and 4.
>> Main issues are:
>> 1. what are the keystrokes for keyboard access?  This question has
>> already been forwarded to the dhtml style guide group.
>> 2. what are the role(s) and properties?  Is it a new role (sub-range
>> slider)?  A new sub-role?
>> Overarching the above is a question as to whether this is a usable
>> widget.  Perhaps that's not a question for this group (wai-pfwg), and it
>> looks like the horse has left the barn (or is leaving soon), so perhaps
>> it's moot.  I would like to seek advice from user experience folks about
>> this new widget, hence I'm cc'ing the fluid-work list.  Fluid-work list:
>> this is the same widget Eli brought up last Jan:
>> http://fluidproject.org/pipermail/fluid-work/2008-January/001341.html
>> David Bolter wrote:
>>> What we are beginning to see are widgets that allow the user to select
>>> a range. The form I've seen is a slider with two thumbs, allowing the
>>> user to select two endpoints of a range, thereby selecting a range.
>>> This is a strange beast.  Seems like an unlawful marriage of role
>>> slider and property multiselect.  What do we want to do with it?
>>> Out in the wild, I see at least jquery has one, and one is landing in
>>> dojox (the dojo staging area).
>>> We discussed this on #wai-aria today to the point of thinking we
>>> needed to raise the issue. (Hopefully not to push the last call date,
>>> but to just get a basic plan ready, and consider impact on roles and
>>> wording, specifically perhaps the range role)
>>> cheers,
>>> David
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