Ideas for Sakai U-Camp & Programmer's Cafe

Barbara Glover barbara.glover at
Mon Oct 15 19:44:57 UTC 2007

Any ideas yet on what the project would be that we would be  
designing? Designers would need to start looking at it fairly soon I  
would think.

On 15-Oct-07, at 8:35 AM, Aaron Zeckoski wrote:

> Ok, after a little brainstorming we are thinking that we should
> attempt something like a code sprint for the afternoon session. The
> idea is that we either pick small scale issues or make up an exercise
> and work on them in small teams. The teams would be made up of a
> couple experienced people (hopefully a designer and developer) and
> some less experienced members. Probably 5-8 people in a team.
> An alternative would be to simply demonstrate the process of designing
> and developing in Sakai for all the developers with a precompleted
> exercise.
> If you have an opinion about which one is more valuable to you as a
> developer or designer in Sakai, please speak up. If you think they are
> both bad ideas and we should just do a presentation or something else
> entirely then please make suggestions.
> Thanks
> -AZ
> On 10/9/07, Colin Clark <colin.clark at> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> Aaron Zeckoski and I have been chatting about some new ideas for the
>> Sakai U-Camp and Programmer's Cafe at the upcoming Newport Beach  
>> conference.
>> We've been talking about the prospect of having a small collaboration
>> where developers in the advanced Cafe stream will implement
>> functionality in Sakai based on wireframes by real designers.
>> I'd like to solicit wider feedback and suggestions on these ideas.  
>> The
>> initial still very drafty suggestion is:
>> * 9 am - 11 am: Design, accessibility, and testing talks and  
>> discussions
>> This session will largely be focussed on topics of interest to
>> experienced UX folks as well as those interested in learning more.  
>> The
>> familiar U-Camp format.
>> * After lunch - 2 pm: U-Camp collaboration with the Programmer's  
>> Cafe.
>> based on a design problem we work out and design for in advance of  
>> the
>> conference, we'll work with the advanced Cafe developers to implement
>> our designs.
>> This will require us to organize well in advance so we have time  
>> to put
>> together a relatively small project, do the user research, and  
>> come up
>> with a design. Perhaps there is some bite-size work from the Fluid
>> summit that we could work on for this project.
>> UI designer/developer types will likely want to stay in the Cafe  
>> for the
>> afternoon to help with the implementation work.
>> * 2 pm - 4:30 pm: Back in the U-Camp, more UX-specific activities.
>> Perhaps something intersecting with teaching and learning? Or UX
>> walkthroughs of Sakai? Other ideas?
>> * 4:30 pm - 5:30 pm: Combined session demonstrating the results of  
>> the
>> implementation. Identifying next steps and people to carry this work
>> forward if desired.
>> I think that we still need to work out a lot of the details for this
>> sort of plan. It's hard to do any sizable amount of implementation  
>> work
>> in an afternoon, so the design problem would have to be very small  
>> and
>> worked out ahead of time.
>> More importantly, we've found in Fluid that the most productive  
>> way to
>> work on UX issues tends to be a close collaboration amongst a small
>> group of designers and developers who work as a team.  
>> Unfortunately this
>> initial idea for a U-Camp/Cafe collaboration doesn't really take this
>> approach into account, and I'm a bit troubled by the process.
>> Thoughts? Suggestions?
>> Colin
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>> Colin Clark
>> Technical Lead, Fluid Project
>> Adaptive Technology Resource Centre, University of Toronto
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