[Fwd: [jasig-winter-07-unconference] lightweight LMS portalintegration as unconf, post-unconf activity]

Daphne Ogle daphne at media.berkeley.edu
Wed Oct 10 15:21:51 UTC 2007

My understanding of CANS is that it's more about seeing what others  
are doing on the site.  So an instructor can see how many students  
have been participating in a discussion and the such.  Perhaps we  
could leverage some of what they've done but my guess is that the  
content and  perhaps the form will be different for a "what's new" /  
synoptic view type tool.


On Sep 21, 2007, at 3:24 PM, Colin Clark wrote:

> I'll have to look more into it, but if it's suitable perhaps we can  
> integrate with it rather than duplicating?
> Thanks for bringing it up and providing some information about CANS!
> Colin
> Moore, Kathleen E wrote:
>> It sounds great, but what do gfolks think about how this relates  
>> to CANS?
>> (_See http://wiki.fluidproject.org/x/nQca_) Is there a danger of  
>> duplicating effort?
>>  Kathy
>>  Kathleen Moore
>> Web Manager, Information Technology Services
>> BU School of Management
>> kemoore at bu.edu
>> 617-353-2685
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>> ---
>> *From:* fluid-work-bounces at fluidproject.org [mailto:fluid-work- 
>> bounces at fluidproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Daphne Ogle
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2007 5:41 PM
>> *To:* Colin Clark
>> *Cc:* fluid-work at fluidproject.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Fwd: [jasig-winter-07-unconference] lightweight  
>> LMS portalintegration as unconf, post-unconf activity]
>>  Sounds like a great idea!  Count me in.
>>  -Daphne
>>  On Sep 21, 2007, at 12:52 PM, Colin Clark wrote:
>>  Hi all,
>>  Andrew Petro raised the suggestion of a small portlet design/ 
>> development project for the end of the JA-SIG unconference in  
>> November.
>>  His idea is to get Fluid involved in helping to design a small  
>> LMS integration portlet that would provide a summary view of  
>> various information in Sakai or other learning management systems.
>>  I think this would be a great bit of work we could collaborate  
>> with the uPortal community on, and might feed back into some of  
>> the recent discussion we've been having about newsfeed and  
>> synoptic-style views of data in Sakai.
>>  Thoughts?
>>  Colin
>>  -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [jasig-winter-07-unconference] lightweight LMS portal  
>> integration as unconf, post-unconf activity
>> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 06:41:17 -0700
>> From: Andrew Petro <apetro at unicon.net <mailto:apetro at unicon.net>>
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>>  Anyone have a particular ability to convince Pete Boysen and/or  
>> Pete's
>> management to send him to the UnConference and post-activities  
>> with his
>> shiny new CAR-ified WebCT channel in tow?
>>  I suspect there's room in the world for a quality "Pluggable  
>> Lightweight
>> LMS Integration Portlet".  "PLLIP", maybe.  With plugins to query  
>> WebCT,
>> Blackboard, Sakai.  Displays your courses/sites/whatevers, gives you
>> links to them, away you go.  Shared UI excellence, maybe get the  
>> folks to make it sing.  Different connection details for different
>> versions of WebCT?  That's fine, we can have twelve versions of the
>> plugin if need be, all ready to be spring-wired in.
>>  What prevents me from just doing this some weekend is lack of  
>> access to
>> test instances of the proprietary LMSs.  Is the Post-Un-Conference a
>> chance to get together devs interested in the various LMSs to get  
>> this done?
>>  Probably time to take this to uportal-user@ , but I wanted to  
>> flesh out
>> the pitch here first and see if this is the kind of activity  
>> suggestion
>> we'd want to use to draw people and like to see them do once drawn.
>> Supposing this group thinks this is a good idea, I can take it  
>> over to
>> -user@ as more of that infectious enthusiasm stuff.
>>  I'm torn.  I don't want to discourage people from working on uPortal
>> itself post-conference, but realistically I think a project more this
>> size with more of this immediate selfish return-on-investment
>> proposition (tada! instead of your own hacked LMS integration, you're
>> now on shared open source code with a UI plausibly on the roadmap for
>> FLUID enhancement!) is easier to draw institutional devs into and  
>> more
>> likely to align with existing local code they could bring and share.
>> (Here's my custom channel to talk to my custom LMS, now, how would I
>> make this into a PLLIP plugin?)
>>  Andrew
>>>> Rutgers has a Sakai project.  Do those devs want to be available,
>>>> connect up?  More generally Rutgers has an interesting environment
>>>> involving a federated campus and several LMSs.  In our world of
>>>> Blackboard channels and WebCT channels and versions all over the
>>>> place and now Sakai, spending some hands-on time looking at what
>>>> we're all doing for even the lightest "integration" (Can you get it
>>>> to list their courses in the portal?  With SSO links?) could be  
>>>> neat.
>>> I'm game and can probably sell the extra days. To be honest,
>>> portal-sakai integration is on our roadmap -- something like this
>>> could be the catalyst to push it more in the near term. Though  
>>> most of
>>> my fall is going to be spent riding the Sakai 2.5 QA cycle &  
>>> trying to
>>> eek out 10% performance gains left and right to keep up with our
>>> expanding usage.
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> Colin Clark
> Technical Lead, Fluid Project
> Adaptive Technology Resource Centre, University of Toronto
> http://fluidproject.org

Daphne Ogle
Senior Interaction Designer
University of California, Berkeley
Educational Technology Services
daphne at media.berkeley.edu
cell (510)847-0308

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