OSP and tabular data

Michael S Elledge elledge at msu.edu
Tue Jul 24 21:31:29 UTC 2007


I don't know. Sean? How were the headings marked up when you've 
evaluated it in the past? Which checker did you use?

Mike

Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote:
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> So, if it is tabular and the headers have meaning why would these 
> tools flag this as presentational? Were the headers mared as <TH>?
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> I'd call it tabular, also. Think of it this way: if you have (or could
> have) column and row headers that ascribe meaning to the content where
> they intersect, you can call it a table. Be sure to: associate the
> headers with the cells (for example, using the <scope> attribute), and
> include a table summary and caption.
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> Mike
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> Darren Cambridge wrote:
> > Sean--
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> > I think I'd lean towards calling it tabular data. The table structure
> > conveys meaning; it's not merely a way to make things look pleasant. I
> > would guess that switching to a css layout would actually make it less
> > straightforward to convey that meaning in an accessible way. We should
> > probably be looking to the good practices for dealing with tabular
> > data for strategies.
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> > Darren
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> > Sean Keesler wrote:
> >> I am doing a UI review of the OSP matrix tool (see attched image) and
> >> need a little advice:
> >>
> >> The matrix is big table that is being used as a big grid to represent
> >> the accumulation of information (files and filled out forms) related
> >> to established criteria and levels (rows and columns). The colors of
> >> the table cells convey information about the cell status and the
> >> icons/images convey information about the number and type of
> >> files/forms that have been added to the matrix cell.
> >>
> >> Its sort of tabular data, and its sort of not. Accessibility
> >> validators yell at me because we seem to be using a table for
> >> formatting only...and indeed, much of the information being conveyed
> >> is not being conveyed in a very accessible manner (yes, that is
> >> covered in my review) and I wonder if this is "tabular data" or
> >> not...I need a ruling!
> >>
> >> Would the recommendation of this group be to redesign the matrix
> >> without a table and do some css/div magic? or is this a table of
> >> tabular data? What say ye?
> >>
> >>
> >> [see attachment: "Matrix.png", size: 56698 bytes]
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> >> Matrix.png
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