dojo ui help

David Bolter david.bolter at
Wed Jul 11 03:17:23 UTC 2007


Thanks for your reply, it was right on topic, and thanks for checking 
the Apple docs. This is a bit of a mucky one I think.

I've spent a bit of time away from dojo and am not sure but I think Bill 
is struggling with how to capture the semantics of highlighted in 
perhaps a style-agnostic term. It might be futile :)

I've seen, and experienced first hand, confusion over the various states 
that different toolkits have... stuff like armed, active, selected, 
checked, enabled, pressed, on...

The aria state documentation is quite descriptive... but I'm not seeing 
anything that fits say a highlighted parent menu item. I'm not sure a 
semantically meaningful term for this is a good idea or not... but worth 
exploring. If a menu-item is selected/armed/active/highlighted we might 
contort our minds to think of that as a temporary live region and the 
related parent menu item as 'relevant' but I really don't want to go there.

I think *maybe* menu items that open submenus should have a selected 
state if a user has selected them. Tomorrow I may disagree with myself. 
It does seem to diverge a bit from the typical use of the selected state.


Colin Clark wrote:
> Hi David,
> So, in this case, the thing you're suggested Fluid can help with is 
> Bill's question about what highlight/hover state should be called? Or 
> am I confused?
> I did a quick read through the Apple Human Interface Guidelines, just 
> as an example of where this terminology might be mentioned, and didn't 
> find any reference to it.
> How about calling it "highlighted"? :)
> Does anyone else know if there is established terminology for this 
> behaviour menus?
> Colin
> David Bolter wrote:
>> This is an example of the kind of thing I hope the FLUID ui gurus can 
>> help with if possible:
>> I understand it may be too early to commit to a toolkit; and to 
>> commit resources to a toolkit.
>> cheers,
>> D
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