Fwd: Include a picture in an Samigo assessment only with access by the student when taking the assessment

[John Norman]

I think this is illustrative of an important use-case for content  
management walkthroughs. In my mind at least it is related to the  
issue of where to put email attachments so they can be seen by  
following a URL, but not browsed.

John

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> From: Charles Hedrick <hedrick at rutgers.edu>
> Date: 17 August 2007 15:33:24 GMT+02:00
> To: Karen Tsao <ktsao at stanford.edu>
> Cc: Stephen Marquard <stephen.marquard at uct.ac.za>, Raúl Enrique  
> Mengod López <rmengod at cc.upv.es>, "sakai- 
> dev at collab.sakaiproject.org" <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
> Subject: Re: Include a picture in an Samigo assessment only with  
> access by the student when taking the assessment
>
> I just put an image into the text of a question. I verified that I  
> could see it as a student. As teacher I did "hide" for the image.  
> As student, there is now a broken link in the question text.
>
> Rutgers has a patch so that any folder in resources starting with  
> "protected" does not permit students to browse, but still permits  
> them to load the contents if they know the URL. I believe this is  
> what you want. We've offered this patch several times, but it has  
> not been accepted. It would be better to separate permissions for  
> read content and read directory. However we're not in a position to  
> make a change of that magnitude.
>
> There was a great opportunity to fix this when Melete moved its  
> content into resources. This should have been done by creating an  
> area which faculty could see but students could not. Instead it was  
> put into an area "private" which no one but an administrator can  
> look at.
>
> Rather than having each application kludge this, we really need a  
> way to create areas that faculty can look at and manage, but where  
> students can only look up individual resources given their URL.
>
>
> On Jul 25, 2007, at 4:36 PM, Karen Tsao wrote:
>
>> Hum... Can I know what do you mean by "can't access the file"? I  
>> just tried
>> to hide
>> one picture bug I can attach it to a question. Am I missing  
>> something?
>>
>> But anyway, in 2.5, we are going to implement displaying image,
>> audio, and video attachments inline:
>>
>> http://128.196.219.68/jira/browse/SAK-10880
>>
>> But how this inline feature prevents showing that picture in the site
>> resources tool?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Karen
>>
>>
>> On 7/25/07, Stephen Marquard <stephen.marquard at uct.ac.za> wrote:
>>>
>>> Karen Tsao wrote:
>>> > Hi Raul,
>>> >
>>> > In Resource tool, there is an Action dropdown box. Select "Edit  
>>> Details"
>>> to
>>> > go to
>>> > the Edit Details page.  You can set the options in  
>>> "Availability and
>>> > Access"
>>> > section
>>> > to hide from students' access. These resources can still be  
>>> included in
>>> a
>>> > question.
>>>
>>> Hi Karen,
>>>
>>> That unfortunately isn't the case. 'Hide' in Resources means that  
>>> it's not
>>>
>>> available at all (i.e. you can't access the file), not that it's  
>>> just not
>>> visible in the Resources tool.
>>>
>>> So it's different from 'hidden' in Windows for example.
>>>
>>> I think the solution to the original problem is probably for T&Q  
>>> to be
>>> able to
>>> display question attachments inline.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>> --
>>> Stephen Marquard
>>> Learning Technologies Co-ordinator, Centre for Educational  
>>> Technology
>>> Centre for Higher Education Development, University of Cape Town
>>> Email and XMPP (Jabber/GTalk): stephen.marquard at uct.ac.za
>>> Cell: +27-83-500-5290
>>>
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