[Accessforall] conflict this morning/24751 agena

Treviranus, Jutta (Academic) jtreviranus at faculty.ocadu.ca
Mon Jun 17 23:33:21 EDT 2013


Can everyone indicate a time that works for you at this link?

http://whenisgood.net/tg7s9jy

thanks
Jutta

Jutta Treviranus
Professor and Director
Inclusive Design Research Centre and Inclusive Design Institute
OCAD University

On 2013-06-17, at 7:02 AM, "Treviranus, Jutta (Academic)" <jtreviranus at faculty.ocadu.ca> wrote:

> Dear all, 
> It appears that more than 2/3 of the group have conflicts this morning so we will need to find an alternative time to Monday morning for many reasons. 
> 
> I will set up a Doodle poll and sent it to everyone.
> I will also send a more complete agenda with links to the items we will cover.
> 
> thanks
> Jutta
> 
> 
> Jutta Treviranus
> Professor and Director
> Inclusive Design Research Centre and Inclusive Design Institute
> OCAD University
> 
> On 2013-06-17, at 4:44 AM, Andy Heath <andyheath at axelrod.plus.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Emails arrived during the European night.
>>> I have a conflict this week but will weigh in if possible times are circulated.
>>> 
>>> Madeleine
>> 
>> I have an overlapping call that starts earlier but which requires I give it priority - if its finished in time I'll join.
>> Otherwise I can weigh in also if possible times are circulated.
>> whenisgood.net might be useful
>> 
>> andy
>>> 
>>> On 2013-06-16, at 9:56 PM, "Treviranus, Jutta (Academic)" <jtreviranus at faculty.ocadu.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> Tomorrows draft agenda is:
>>>> 1. New time for meetings?
>>>> 2. Review Gottfried's proposal regarding labels
>>>> 3. Review Liddy's proposal
>>>> 4. Review points of agreement.
>>>> 
>>>> Gary Albrecht cannot make Monday mornings at 8am to discuss metrics and outliers.
>>>> 
>>>> Talk to you at 8am.
>>>> 
>>>> Jutta
>>>> 
>>>> Jutta Treviranus
>>>> Professor and Director
>>>> Inclusive Design Research Centre and Inclusive Design Institute
>>>> OCAD University
>>>> 
>>>> On 2013-06-10, at 10:28 PM, Gregg Vanderheiden <gv at trace.wisc.edu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> RE Picking a list:
>>>>> How about we move the discussion to the Preferences at lists.gpii.net.
>>>>> It is then part of the overall set of lists.   It also is a bit more agnostic and general than "accessforall"  though that is a big topic for now.   The discussions will continue however, after this is released.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> RE  One Place
>>>>> We can then have the contributions all gather on the preference section of  wiki.GPII.net  (or at least link to them all from there if they are not posted there)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> RE  Drafting
>>>>> I agree that we should start drafting the standard.    Lots of talking won't clarify as well as the actual words.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> RE Agreement
>>>>> I think it would be of great help to figure out what we agree on and where there are differences.
>>>>> Toward that end I set up a WORKING page on Google Docs where we can work on the ERLEND QUESTIONS  (and any others people add)
>>>>> you can find it at   http://tinyurl.com/24751EQs
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please go and add your votes for or against statements there -- and add your own new statements.     Lets see where we agree and build from there.
>>>>> This also works asynchronously - so you can do it whether you make the meetings or not.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I started it out -- capturing what I thought I heard from the list - or thought.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gregg
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D.
>>>>> Director Trace R&D Center
>>>>> Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering
>>>>> and Biomedical Engineering University of Wisconsin-Madison
>>>>> Technical Director - Cloud4all Project - http://Cloud4all.info
>>>>> Co-Director, Raising the Floor - International - http://Raisingthefloor.org
>>>>> and the Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure Project -  http://GPII.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 10, 2013, at 5:46 PM, Liddy Nevile <liddy at sunriseresearch.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would like us to be doing the work in one place as well - it is very confusing chasing stuff all over the place...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Liddy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11/06/2013, at 12:05 AM, Madeleine Rothberg wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If days other than Monday have too many conflicts, then we can stick with
>>>>>>> it. I agree that if we are meeting generally it doesn't hurt to miss a few
>>>>>>> -- but Canadian, US, UK, and European countries all have different
>>>>>>> holidays, so it will sometimes be a problem. (In May, for example, I think
>>>>>>> three different weeks were holidays. The group met on US Memorial Day,
>>>>>>> when I was off.)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Whichever mailing list organizers prefer is fine with me. I just want to
>>>>>>> know how to keep up to date.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Madeleine
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 6/10/13 9:49 AM, "Gottfried Zimmermann (List)"
>>>>>>> <zimmermann at accesstechnologiesgroup.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Madeleine,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> good point about using the mailing list.  I believe we should most likely
>>>>>>>> use the mailing list preferences at lists.gpii.net.  But I will also send it
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> Accessforall at fluidproject.org - then everybody can verify where they are
>>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regarding the meeting day: If the reason is only for holidays, i would not
>>>>>>>> like to switch to another day.  If we move it to a different day, I will
>>>>>>>> likely not be able to attend.  Also, in Germany we have many Thursdays as
>>>>>>>> holidays.  So, if we run the meeting every week, we can afford skipping a
>>>>>>>> Monday if that is a holiday in the US or another well-represented country.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Gottfried
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>>> Von: Madeleine Rothberg [mailto:madeleine_rothberg at wgbh.org]
>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 10. Juni 2013 15:26
>>>>>>>> An: Treviranus, Jutta (Academic); Gottfried Zimmermann;
>>>>>>>> Accessforall at fluidproject.org
>>>>>>>> Cc: Andy Heath; Gregg Vanderheiden; Liddy Nevile; Erlend Øverby; Helle
>>>>>>>> Bjarnø
>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: conflict this morning
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thank you, Jutta, for adding me to this message.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Can I ask that we return to using the list for communicating about these
>>>>>>>> meetings, so that we can be sure everyone knows the schedule? If for some
>>>>>>>> reason it no longer makes sense to use <Accessforall at fluidproject.org>
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> let's establish a new list for this meeting.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Also, is it possible to meet on a day other than Monday? That would avoid
>>>>>>>> conflicts with the many Monday holidays in numerous different countries,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> would make it more likely that we discover conflicts in advance rather
>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>> just before the meeting time.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -Madeleine
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 6/10/13 6:34 AM, "Treviranus, Jutta (Academic)"
>>>>>>>> <jtreviranus at faculty.ocadu.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gary Albright who was going to call in briefly this morning to speak on
>>>>>>>>> outliers and affinity metrics also has a conflict.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So we will meet again next week.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>> jutta
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2013-06-10, at 6:27 AM, Gottfried Zimmermann <gzimmermann at acm.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, i think that's wise.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Gottfried
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>>>>> Von: Treviranus, Jutta (Academic)
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:jtreviranus at faculty.ocadu.ca]
>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 10. Juni 2013 12:20
>>>>>>>>>> An: Andy Heath
>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Treviranus, Jutta (Academic); Gregg Vanderheiden; Liddy Nevile;
>>>>>>>>>> Erlend  Øverby; Helle Bjarnø; Gottfried Zimmermann
>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: conflict this morning
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Given all these conflicts perhaps we should let Liddy get to bed on
>>>>>>>>>> time as  well, and meet again next week or at another time this week?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Jutta
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Jutta Treviranus
>>>>>>>>>> Professor and Director
>>>>>>>>>> Inclusive Design Research Centre and Inclusive Design Institute OCAD
>>>>>>>>>> University
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-06-10, at 6:17 AM, Andy Heath <andyheath at axelrod.plus.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I also have an overlapping call and may be late or miss entirely
>>>>>>>>>>> andy
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Working Group members
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm to speak at this event today (sold out with 200 attending), and
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> thought I was to speak last and was one of 3 speakers but it turns
>>>>>>>>>> out I'm  first and am the only presentation beginning just after 8,
>>>>>>>>>> see  http://joininfo.ca/BLN . Apologies but I won't be able to make
>>>>>>>>>> our meeting  this morning.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Erlend could you chair today's call?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jutta
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jutta Treviranus
>>>>>>>>>>>> Professor and Director
>>>>>>>>>>>> Inclusive Design Research Centre and Inclusive Design Institute
>>>>>>>>>>>> OCAD University
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> andy
>>>>>>>>>>> andyheath at axelrod.plus.com
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> __________________
>>>>>>>>>>> Andy Heath
>>>>>>>>>>> http://axelafa.com
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> andy
>> andyheath at axelrod.plus.com
>> -- 
>> __________________
>> Andy Heath
>> http://axelafa.com
>> 
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