[Accessforall] conflict this morning/24751 agena

Liddy Nevile liddy at sunriseresearch.org
Mon Jun 17 06:52:35 EDT 2013


can we have the meeting some other time please??If people are not  
available, it is not a useful meeting...

Liddy

On 17/06/2013, at 6:44 PM, Andy Heath wrote:

> Emails arrived during the European night.
>> I have a conflict this week but will weigh in if possible times are  
>> circulated.
>>
>> Madeleine
>
> I have an overlapping call that starts earlier but which requires I  
> give it priority - if its finished in time I'll join.
> Otherwise I can weigh in also if possible times are circulated.
> whenisgood.net might be useful
>
> andy
>>
>> On 2013-06-16, at 9:56 PM, "Treviranus, Jutta (Academic)" <jtreviranus at faculty.ocadu.ca 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> Tomorrows draft agenda is:
>>> 1. New time for meetings?
>>> 2. Review Gottfried's proposal regarding labels
>>> 3. Review Liddy's proposal
>>> 4. Review points of agreement.
>>>
>>> Gary Albrecht cannot make Monday mornings at 8am to discuss  
>>> metrics and outliers.
>>>
>>> Talk to you at 8am.
>>>
>>> Jutta
>>>
>>> Jutta Treviranus
>>> Professor and Director
>>> Inclusive Design Research Centre and Inclusive Design Institute
>>> OCAD University
>>>
>>> On 2013-06-10, at 10:28 PM, Gregg Vanderheiden <gv at trace.wisc.edu>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> RE Picking a list:
>>>> How about we move the discussion to the Preferences at lists.gpii.net.
>>>> It is then part of the overall set of lists.   It also is a bit  
>>>> more agnostic and general than "accessforall"  though that is a  
>>>> big topic for now.   The discussions will continue however, after  
>>>> this is released.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> RE  One Place
>>>> We can then have the contributions all gather on the preference  
>>>> section of  wiki.GPII.net  (or at least link to them all from  
>>>> there if they are not posted there)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> RE  Drafting
>>>> I agree that we should start drafting the standard.    Lots of  
>>>> talking won't clarify as well as the actual words.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> RE Agreement
>>>> I think it would be of great help to figure out what we agree on  
>>>> and where there are differences.
>>>> Toward that end I set up a WORKING page on Google Docs where we  
>>>> can work on the ERLEND QUESTIONS  (and any others people add)
>>>> you can find it at   http://tinyurl.com/24751EQs
>>>>
>>>> Please go and add your votes for or against statements there --  
>>>> and add your own new statements.     Lets see where we agree and  
>>>> build from there.
>>>> This also works asynchronously - so you can do it whether you  
>>>> make the meetings or not.
>>>>
>>>> I started it out -- capturing what I thought I heard from the  
>>>> list - or thought.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gregg
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D.
>>>> Director Trace R&D Center
>>>> Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering
>>>> and Biomedical Engineering University of Wisconsin-Madison
>>>> Technical Director - Cloud4all Project - http://Cloud4all.info
>>>> Co-Director, Raising the Floor - International - http://Raisingthefloor.org
>>>> and the Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure Project -  http://GPII.net
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 10, 2013, at 5:46 PM, Liddy Nevile <liddy at sunriseresearch.org 
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would like us to be doing the work in one place as well - it  
>>>>> is very confusing chasing stuff all over the place...
>>>>>
>>>>> Liddy
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/06/2013, at 12:05 AM, Madeleine Rothberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If days other than Monday have too many conflicts, then we can  
>>>>>> stick with
>>>>>> it. I agree that if we are meeting generally it doesn't hurt to  
>>>>>> miss a few
>>>>>> -- but Canadian, US, UK, and European countries all have  
>>>>>> different
>>>>>> holidays, so it will sometimes be a problem. (In May, for  
>>>>>> example, I think
>>>>>> three different weeks were holidays. The group met on US  
>>>>>> Memorial Day,
>>>>>> when I was off.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whichever mailing list organizers prefer is fine with me. I  
>>>>>> just want to
>>>>>> know how to keep up to date.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Madeleine
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/10/13 9:49 AM, "Gottfried Zimmermann (List)"
>>>>>> <zimmermann at accesstechnologiesgroup.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Madeleine,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> good point about using the mailing list.  I believe we should  
>>>>>>> most likely
>>>>>>> use the mailing list preferences at lists.gpii.net.  But I will  
>>>>>>> also send it
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> Accessforall at fluidproject.org - then everybody can verify  
>>>>>>> where they are
>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regarding the meeting day: If the reason is only for holidays,  
>>>>>>> i would not
>>>>>>> like to switch to another day.  If we move it to a different  
>>>>>>> day, I will
>>>>>>> likely not be able to attend.  Also, in Germany we have many  
>>>>>>> Thursdays as
>>>>>>> holidays.  So, if we run the meeting every week, we can afford  
>>>>>>> skipping a
>>>>>>> Monday if that is a holiday in the US or another well- 
>>>>>>> represented country.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Gottfried
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>> Von: Madeleine Rothberg [mailto:madeleine_rothberg at wgbh.org]
>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 10. Juni 2013 15:26
>>>>>>> An: Treviranus, Jutta (Academic); Gottfried Zimmermann;
>>>>>>> Accessforall at fluidproject.org
>>>>>>> Cc: Andy Heath; Gregg Vanderheiden; Liddy Nevile; Erlend  
>>>>>>> Øverby; Helle
>>>>>>> Bjarnø
>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: conflict this morning
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you, Jutta, for adding me to this message.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can I ask that we return to using the list for communicating  
>>>>>>> about these
>>>>>>> meetings, so that we can be sure everyone knows the schedule?  
>>>>>>> If for some
>>>>>>> reason it no longer makes sense to use <Accessforall at fluidproject.org 
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> let's establish a new list for this meeting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, is it possible to meet on a day other than Monday? That  
>>>>>>> would avoid
>>>>>>> conflicts with the many Monday holidays in numerous different  
>>>>>>> countries,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> would make it more likely that we discover conflicts in  
>>>>>>> advance rather
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> just before the meeting time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Madeleine
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/10/13 6:34 AM, "Treviranus, Jutta (Academic)"
>>>>>>> <jtreviranus at faculty.ocadu.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gary Albright who was going to call in briefly this morning  
>>>>>>>> to speak on
>>>>>>>> outliers and affinity metrics also has a conflict.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So we will meet again next week.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>> jutta
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2013-06-10, at 6:27 AM, Gottfried Zimmermann <gzimmermann at acm.org 
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, i think that's wise.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gottfried
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>>>> Von: Treviranus, Jutta (Academic)
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:jtreviranus at faculty.ocadu.ca]
>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 10. Juni 2013 12:20
>>>>>>>>> An: Andy Heath
>>>>>>>>> Cc: Treviranus, Jutta (Academic); Gregg Vanderheiden; Liddy  
>>>>>>>>> Nevile;
>>>>>>>>> Erlend  Øverby; Helle Bjarnø; Gottfried Zimmermann
>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: conflict this morning
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Given all these conflicts perhaps we should let Liddy get to  
>>>>>>>>> bed on
>>>>>>>>> time as  well, and meet again next week or at another time  
>>>>>>>>> this week?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jutta
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jutta Treviranus
>>>>>>>>> Professor and Director
>>>>>>>>> Inclusive Design Research Centre and Inclusive Design  
>>>>>>>>> Institute OCAD
>>>>>>>>> University
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2013-06-10, at 6:17 AM, Andy Heath <andyheath at axelrod.plus.com 
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I also have an overlapping call and may be late or miss  
>>>>>>>>>> entirely
>>>>>>>>>> andy
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Working Group members
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm to speak at this event today (sold out with 200  
>>>>>>>>>>> attending), and
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> thought I was to speak last and was one of 3 speakers but it  
>>>>>>>>> turns
>>>>>>>>> out I'm  first and am the only presentation beginning just  
>>>>>>>>> after 8,
>>>>>>>>> see  http://joininfo.ca/BLN . Apologies but I won't be able  
>>>>>>>>> to make
>>>>>>>>> our meeting  this morning.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Erlend could you chair today's call?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> Jutta
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jutta Treviranus
>>>>>>>>>>> Professor and Director
>>>>>>>>>>> Inclusive Design Research Centre and Inclusive Design  
>>>>>>>>>>> Institute
>>>>>>>>>>> OCAD University
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> andy
>>>>>>>>>> andyheath at axelrod.plus.com
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> __________________
>>>>>>>>>> Andy Heath
>>>>>>>>>> http://axelafa.com
>>>
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