[Accessforall] conflict this morning/24751 agena

Andy Heath andyheath at axelrod.plus.com
Mon Jun 17 04:44:20 EDT 2013


Emails arrived during the European night.
> I have a conflict this week but will weigh in if possible times are circulated.
>
> Madeleine

I have an overlapping call that starts earlier but which requires I give 
it priority - if its finished in time I'll join.
Otherwise I can weigh in also if possible times are circulated.
whenisgood.net might be useful

andy
>
> On 2013-06-16, at 9:56 PM, "Treviranus, Jutta (Academic)" <jtreviranus at faculty.ocadu.ca> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> Tomorrows draft agenda is:
>> 1. New time for meetings?
>> 2. Review Gottfried's proposal regarding labels
>> 3. Review Liddy's proposal
>> 4. Review points of agreement.
>>
>> Gary Albrecht cannot make Monday mornings at 8am to discuss metrics and outliers.
>>
>> Talk to you at 8am.
>>
>> Jutta
>>
>> Jutta Treviranus
>> Professor and Director
>> Inclusive Design Research Centre and Inclusive Design Institute
>> OCAD University
>>
>> On 2013-06-10, at 10:28 PM, Gregg Vanderheiden <gv at trace.wisc.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> RE Picking a list:
>>> How about we move the discussion to the Preferences at lists.gpii.net.
>>> It is then part of the overall set of lists.   It also is a bit more agnostic and general than "accessforall"  though that is a big topic for now.   The discussions will continue however, after this is released.
>>>
>>>
>>> RE  One Place
>>> We can then have the contributions all gather on the preference section of  wiki.GPII.net  (or at least link to them all from there if they are not posted there)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> RE  Drafting
>>> I agree that we should start drafting the standard.    Lots of talking won't clarify as well as the actual words.
>>>
>>>
>>> RE Agreement
>>> I think it would be of great help to figure out what we agree on and where there are differences.
>>> Toward that end I set up a WORKING page on Google Docs where we can work on the ERLEND QUESTIONS  (and any others people add)
>>> you can find it at   http://tinyurl.com/24751EQs
>>>
>>> Please go and add your votes for or against statements there -- and add your own new statements.     Lets see where we agree and build from there.
>>> This also works asynchronously - so you can do it whether you make the meetings or not.
>>>
>>> I started it out -- capturing what I thought I heard from the list - or thought.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gregg
>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>> Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D.
>>> Director Trace R&D Center
>>> Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering
>>> and Biomedical Engineering University of Wisconsin-Madison
>>> Technical Director - Cloud4all Project - http://Cloud4all.info
>>> Co-Director, Raising the Floor - International - http://Raisingthefloor.org
>>> and the Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure Project -  http://GPII.net
>>>
>>> On Jun 10, 2013, at 5:46 PM, Liddy Nevile <liddy at sunriseresearch.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would like us to be doing the work in one place as well - it is very confusing chasing stuff all over the place...
>>>>
>>>> Liddy
>>>>
>>>> On 11/06/2013, at 12:05 AM, Madeleine Rothberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If days other than Monday have too many conflicts, then we can stick with
>>>>> it. I agree that if we are meeting generally it doesn't hurt to miss a few
>>>>> -- but Canadian, US, UK, and European countries all have different
>>>>> holidays, so it will sometimes be a problem. (In May, for example, I think
>>>>> three different weeks were holidays. The group met on US Memorial Day,
>>>>> when I was off.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Whichever mailing list organizers prefer is fine with me. I just want to
>>>>> know how to keep up to date.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Madeleine
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/10/13 9:49 AM, "Gottfried Zimmermann (List)"
>>>>> <zimmermann at accesstechnologiesgroup.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Madeleine,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> good point about using the mailing list.  I believe we should most likely
>>>>>> use the mailing list preferences at lists.gpii.net.  But I will also send it
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> Accessforall at fluidproject.org - then everybody can verify where they are
>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding the meeting day: If the reason is only for holidays, i would not
>>>>>> like to switch to another day.  If we move it to a different day, I will
>>>>>> likely not be able to attend.  Also, in Germany we have many Thursdays as
>>>>>> holidays.  So, if we run the meeting every week, we can afford skipping a
>>>>>> Monday if that is a holiday in the US or another well-represented country.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Gottfried
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>> Von: Madeleine Rothberg [mailto:madeleine_rothberg at wgbh.org]
>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 10. Juni 2013 15:26
>>>>>> An: Treviranus, Jutta (Academic); Gottfried Zimmermann;
>>>>>> Accessforall at fluidproject.org
>>>>>> Cc: Andy Heath; Gregg Vanderheiden; Liddy Nevile; Erlend Øverby; Helle
>>>>>> Bjarnø
>>>>>> Betreff: Re: conflict this morning
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you, Jutta, for adding me to this message.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can I ask that we return to using the list for communicating about these
>>>>>> meetings, so that we can be sure everyone knows the schedule? If for some
>>>>>> reason it no longer makes sense to use <Accessforall at fluidproject.org>
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> let's establish a new list for this meeting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, is it possible to meet on a day other than Monday? That would avoid
>>>>>> conflicts with the many Monday holidays in numerous different countries,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> would make it more likely that we discover conflicts in advance rather
>>>>>> than
>>>>>> just before the meeting time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Madeleine
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/10/13 6:34 AM, "Treviranus, Jutta (Academic)"
>>>>>> <jtreviranus at faculty.ocadu.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary Albright who was going to call in briefly this morning to speak on
>>>>>>> outliers and affinity metrics also has a conflict.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So we will meet again next week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> jutta
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2013-06-10, at 6:27 AM, Gottfried Zimmermann <gzimmermann at acm.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, i think that's wise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gottfried
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>>> Von: Treviranus, Jutta (Academic)
>>>>>>>> [mailto:jtreviranus at faculty.ocadu.ca]
>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 10. Juni 2013 12:20
>>>>>>>> An: Andy Heath
>>>>>>>> Cc: Treviranus, Jutta (Academic); Gregg Vanderheiden; Liddy Nevile;
>>>>>>>> Erlend  Øverby; Helle Bjarnø; Gottfried Zimmermann
>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: conflict this morning
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Given all these conflicts perhaps we should let Liddy get to bed on
>>>>>>>> time as  well, and meet again next week or at another time this week?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jutta
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jutta Treviranus
>>>>>>>> Professor and Director
>>>>>>>> Inclusive Design Research Centre and Inclusive Design Institute OCAD
>>>>>>>> University
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2013-06-10, at 6:17 AM, Andy Heath <andyheath at axelrod.plus.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I also have an overlapping call and may be late or miss entirely
>>>>>>>>> andy
>>>>>>>>>> Dear Working Group members
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm to speak at this event today (sold out with 200 attending), and
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> thought I was to speak last and was one of 3 speakers but it turns
>>>>>>>> out I'm  first and am the only presentation beginning just after 8,
>>>>>>>> see  http://joininfo.ca/BLN . Apologies but I won't be able to make
>>>>>>>> our meeting  this morning.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Erlend could you chair today's call?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>> Jutta
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jutta Treviranus
>>>>>>>>>> Professor and Director
>>>>>>>>>> Inclusive Design Research Centre and Inclusive Design Institute
>>>>>>>>>> OCAD University
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> andy
>>>>>>>>> andyheath at axelrod.plus.com
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> __________________
>>>>>>>>> Andy Heath
>>>>>>>>> http://axelafa.com
>>
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