[Accessforall] conflict this morning

Madeleine Rothberg madeleine_rothberg at wgbh.org
Sun Jun 16 22:02:20 EDT 2013


I have a conflict this week but will weigh in if possible times are circulated. 

Madeleine 

On 2013-06-16, at 9:56 PM, "Treviranus, Jutta (Academic)" <jtreviranus at faculty.ocadu.ca> wrote:

> Hi All,
> Tomorrows draft agenda is:
> 1. New time for meetings?
> 2. Review Gottfried's proposal regarding labels
> 3. Review Liddy's proposal 
> 4. Review points of agreement.
> 
> Gary Albrecht cannot make Monday mornings at 8am to discuss metrics and outliers. 
> 
> Talk to you at 8am.
> 
> Jutta
> 
> Jutta Treviranus
> Professor and Director
> Inclusive Design Research Centre and Inclusive Design Institute
> OCAD University
> 
> On 2013-06-10, at 10:28 PM, Gregg Vanderheiden <gv at trace.wisc.edu> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> RE Picking a list: 
>> How about we move the discussion to the Preferences at lists.gpii.net.
>> It is then part of the overall set of lists.   It also is a bit more agnostic and general than "accessforall"  though that is a big topic for now.   The discussions will continue however, after this is released.
>> 
>> 
>> RE  One Place
>> We can then have the contributions all gather on the preference section of  wiki.GPII.net  (or at least link to them all from there if they are not posted there)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> RE  Drafting
>> I agree that we should start drafting the standard.    Lots of talking won't clarify as well as the actual words.
>> 
>> 
>> RE Agreement
>> I think it would be of great help to figure out what we agree on and where there are differences.
>> Toward that end I set up a WORKING page on Google Docs where we can work on the ERLEND QUESTIONS  (and any others people add)
>> you can find it at   http://tinyurl.com/24751EQs
>> 
>> Please go and add your votes for or against statements there -- and add your own new statements.     Lets see where we agree and build from there.
>> This also works asynchronously - so you can do it whether you make the meetings or not. 
>> 
>> I started it out -- capturing what I thought I heard from the list - or thought.   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Gregg
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D.
>> Director Trace R&D Center
>> Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering
>> and Biomedical Engineering University of Wisconsin-Madison
>> Technical Director - Cloud4all Project - http://Cloud4all.info
>> Co-Director, Raising the Floor - International - http://Raisingthefloor.org
>> and the Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure Project -  http://GPII.net
>> 
>> On Jun 10, 2013, at 5:46 PM, Liddy Nevile <liddy at sunriseresearch.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> I would like us to be doing the work in one place as well - it is very confusing chasing stuff all over the place...
>>> 
>>> Liddy
>>> 
>>> On 11/06/2013, at 12:05 AM, Madeleine Rothberg wrote:
>>> 
>>>> If days other than Monday have too many conflicts, then we can stick with
>>>> it. I agree that if we are meeting generally it doesn't hurt to miss a few
>>>> -- but Canadian, US, UK, and European countries all have different
>>>> holidays, so it will sometimes be a problem. (In May, for example, I think
>>>> three different weeks were holidays. The group met on US Memorial Day,
>>>> when I was off.)
>>>> 
>>>> Whichever mailing list organizers prefer is fine with me. I just want to
>>>> know how to keep up to date.
>>>> 
>>>> -Madeleine
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/10/13 9:49 AM, "Gottfried Zimmermann (List)"
>>>> <zimmermann at accesstechnologiesgroup.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Madeleine,
>>>>> 
>>>>> good point about using the mailing list.  I believe we should most likely
>>>>> use the mailing list preferences at lists.gpii.net.  But I will also send it
>>>>> to
>>>>> Accessforall at fluidproject.org - then everybody can verify where they are
>>>>> on.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regarding the meeting day: If the reason is only for holidays, i would not
>>>>> like to switch to another day.  If we move it to a different day, I will
>>>>> likely not be able to attend.  Also, in Germany we have many Thursdays as
>>>>> holidays.  So, if we run the meeting every week, we can afford skipping a
>>>>> Monday if that is a holiday in the US or another well-represented country.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Gottfried
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>> Von: Madeleine Rothberg [mailto:madeleine_rothberg at wgbh.org]
>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 10. Juni 2013 15:26
>>>>> An: Treviranus, Jutta (Academic); Gottfried Zimmermann;
>>>>> Accessforall at fluidproject.org
>>>>> Cc: Andy Heath; Gregg Vanderheiden; Liddy Nevile; Erlend Øverby; Helle
>>>>> Bjarnø
>>>>> Betreff: Re: conflict this morning
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you, Jutta, for adding me to this message.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can I ask that we return to using the list for communicating about these
>>>>> meetings, so that we can be sure everyone knows the schedule? If for some
>>>>> reason it no longer makes sense to use <Accessforall at fluidproject.org>
>>>>> then
>>>>> let's establish a new list for this meeting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, is it possible to meet on a day other than Monday? That would avoid
>>>>> conflicts with the many Monday holidays in numerous different countries,
>>>>> and
>>>>> would make it more likely that we discover conflicts in advance rather
>>>>> than
>>>>> just before the meeting time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Madeleine
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/10/13 6:34 AM, "Treviranus, Jutta (Academic)"
>>>>> <jtreviranus at faculty.ocadu.ca> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gary Albright who was going to call in briefly this morning to speak on
>>>>>> outliers and affinity metrics also has a conflict.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So we will meet again next week.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>> jutta
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2013-06-10, at 6:27 AM, Gottfried Zimmermann <gzimmermann at acm.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes, i think that's wise.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gottfried
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>> Von: Treviranus, Jutta (Academic)
>>>>>>> [mailto:jtreviranus at faculty.ocadu.ca]
>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 10. Juni 2013 12:20
>>>>>>> An: Andy Heath
>>>>>>> Cc: Treviranus, Jutta (Academic); Gregg Vanderheiden; Liddy Nevile;
>>>>>>> Erlend  Øverby; Helle Bjarnø; Gottfried Zimmermann
>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: conflict this morning
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Given all these conflicts perhaps we should let Liddy get to bed on
>>>>>>> time as  well, and meet again next week or at another time this week?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jutta
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jutta Treviranus
>>>>>>> Professor and Director
>>>>>>> Inclusive Design Research Centre and Inclusive Design Institute OCAD
>>>>>>> University
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2013-06-10, at 6:17 AM, Andy Heath <andyheath at axelrod.plus.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I also have an overlapping call and may be late or miss entirely
>>>>>>>> andy
>>>>>>>>> Dear Working Group members
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'm to speak at this event today (sold out with 200 attending), and
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> thought I was to speak last and was one of 3 speakers but it turns
>>>>>>> out I'm  first and am the only presentation beginning just after 8,
>>>>>>> see  http://joininfo.ca/BLN . Apologies but I won't be able to make
>>>>>>> our meeting  this morning.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Erlend could you chair today's call?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>> Jutta
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jutta Treviranus
>>>>>>>>> Professor and Director
>>>>>>>>> Inclusive Design Research Centre and Inclusive Design Institute
>>>>>>>>> OCAD University
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> andy
>>>>>>>> andyheath at axelrod.plus.com
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> __________________
>>>>>>>> Andy Heath
>>>>>>>> http://axelafa.com
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